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of course we don't have medicare but we didn't cut medicare by $716 billion. we didn't have a board that told people what treatments they could receive. we didn't also do something i think a number of people across this country recognize, which is put people in a position where they'll lose insurance they had and they wanted. right now, the cbo says up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as obama care goes into effect next week. likewise, a study by mckenzie and company said 30% are anticipating dropping them from coverage. for those reasons, for the tax, for medicare, for this board, and for people losing their insurance, this is why the american people don't want obama care. it's why republicans said do not do this. and the republicans had a plan. they put a plan, a bipartisan plan. it was swept aside. i think something this big, this important, has to be done on a bipartisan basis. we have to have a president that can reach across the aisle and fashion legislation with input from both parties. >> governor romney said this has to be done with a bi
of course we don't have medicare but we didn't cut medicare by $716 billion. we didn't have a board that told people what treatments they could receive. we didn't also do something i think a number of people across this country recognize, which is put people in a position where they'll lose insurance they had and they wanted. right now, the cbo says up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as obama care goes into effect next week. likewise, a study by mckenzie and company said 30% are...
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he is on medicare. on medicare he is cutting $716 billion from the program. he says by not overpaying hospitals and providers, actually going to them and saying everybody is going to get a lower rate. that's saying we're cutting the rates. some 15% of hospitals and nursing homes say they won't make any more medicare patients under that scenario. and we have 50% of doctors who say they won't take anymore medicare patients. we have 4 million people on medicare advantage that will lose it because of those $716 billion in cuts. i can't understand how you can cut medicare $716 million for current recipients of medicare. you point out we're putting come back we'll give a better prescription program. that's $1 for every 15 you have cut. i want to take that $716 billion that you have cut, and put it back into medicare. the idea of cutting $716 billion from medicare to be able to balance the additional cost of obamacare is in my opinion a mistake. with regards to young people coming along, i have proposals to make sure the young people are covered. >> president obama?
he is on medicare. on medicare he is cutting $716 billion from the program. he says by not overpaying hospitals and providers, actually going to them and saying everybody is going to get a lower rate. that's saying we're cutting the rates. some 15% of hospitals and nursing homes say they won't make any more medicare patients under that scenario. and we have 50% of doctors who say they won't take anymore medicare patients. we have 4 million people on medicare advantage that will lose it because...
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life of medicare. we did it by getting rid of taxpayer subsidies and insurance companies that were not making people healthier. >> by 2014, the law requires everybody to have health insurance, whether they purchase it themselves or through their employers. and insurers can't deny you if you have a pre-existing condition or increase your rate. the law has become a cornerstone of the obama campaign. >> i refuse to eliminate health insurance for millions of americans who are poor, and elderly, or disabled. also those with the most can pay lessor owe. >> reporter: but romney says the affordable care act is not affordable. >> we know that health care is too expensive. obama care doesn't make it less expensive. >> reporter: he wants obama cari gone, including the drug prescriptions for seniors. but he wants to keep pieces of the health care plan. although he doesn't say how it will work. >> we have to make sure that people who have pre-existing conditions are able to get insured. and folks who don't get sick
life of medicare. we did it by getting rid of taxpayer subsidies and insurance companies that were not making people healthier. >> by 2014, the law requires everybody to have health insurance, whether they purchase it themselves or through their employers. and insurers can't deny you if you have a pre-existing condition or increase your rate. the law has become a cornerstone of the obama campaign. >> i refuse to eliminate health insurance for millions of americans who are poor, and...
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we didn't cut medicare, of course, we don't have medicare, but we didn't cut medicare by $716 billion. we didn't put in place a board that can tell people ultimately what treatments they're going to receive? >> in one swoop he accused the president of the united states of raising taxes. the president gave senior answer additional savings from medicare. he even accused the president of creating a medical treatment board. yes, romney played the old death panel card. romney was an artful liar when it came to health care. >> number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. >> this is such a big lie. romney's own adviser had to shoot it down after the debate. eric burnstrom was pressed about mitt romney keeping pre-existing conditions as part of his plan. he said, we'd like to sew what states do what massachusetts did. in massachusetts we have a ban on pre-existing conditions. in other words, it's not in romney's plan and they're leaving it up to the states. romney was rewarded for his skillful lying at a hero's
we didn't cut medicare, of course, we don't have medicare, but we didn't cut medicare by $716 billion. we didn't put in place a board that can tell people ultimately what treatments they're going to receive? >> in one swoop he accused the president of the united states of raising taxes. the president gave senior answer additional savings from medicare. he even accused the president of creating a medical treatment board. yes, romney played the old death panel card. romney was an artful...
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we're going to put that money back into medicare. gwen: going into these debates we were all probably guilty of setting the expectations bar and it was pretty high for president obama. i think the polls before showed him like 51% thought he was going to win. 29% thought romney was going to win. compare this to previous incumbents. was it an incumbent's curse at the first debate? >> i think there's some of that but in contrast to some of those previous cases where an incumbent had problems in the first debate. ronald reagan in 1984 lost his train of thought if his first statement. gwen: on the pacific coast highway. >> right. and it gave rise to questions as -- if he was too old. this was a case that i thought from start to finish governor romney was the dominant character in the debate. he was much more forceful so in that sense its it was a much more decisive case of somebody winning and somebody losing. >> there wasn't that single moment that memorable you're no jack kennedy kind of putdown. it was very strong substantive. in fact,
we're going to put that money back into medicare. gwen: going into these debates we were all probably guilty of setting the expectations bar and it was pretty high for president obama. i think the polls before showed him like 51% thought he was going to win. 29% thought romney was going to win. compare this to previous incumbents. was it an incumbent's curse at the first debate? >> i think there's some of that but in contrast to some of those previous cases where an incumbent had problems...
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and the obese for their medicare coverage. where did that idea come from? >> i am the person who put it in the memo but i did not have to fight for it. this is something i ran in "the washington post." i called the rio"peacemega- fatties" and i was taken to task for being insensitive which i probably am. everybody knows this to be true and someone has to pay for it. i'm not say to bankrupt people if they are too heavy but there should be a penalty. i am not really a democrat but i and democratic compared to him. you have to be responsible for your personal behavior. >> quite right, and we should point out that we're not the only ones making arguments about this. there have been other bipartisan commission's, one that was headed by alice rivlin and pete dominic. with regard to medicare, we have to do something with regard to the obese and smokers. they had a more complicated proposal. of life care. these are difficult decisions. we will have to face them. >> fixing the economy, tonight at 8:00 on cspan's "q &a." >> jill stein f
and the obese for their medicare coverage. where did that idea come from? >> i am the person who put it in the memo but i did not have to fight for it. this is something i ran in "the washington post." i called the rio"peacemega- fatties" and i was taken to task for being insensitive which i probably am. everybody knows this to be true and someone has to pay for it. i'm not say to bankrupt people if they are too heavy but there should be a penalty. i am not really a...
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his plan is to privatize medicare. he wants to give seniors a voucher and once you spend your voucher you're on your own. if the premiums go up, you can't afford it, you're on your own. how do we fix it? there's a couple things we got to do. one we need to do some aggressive means testing. i know political season and i'm not suppose to say we will do anything like that. i believe in it. i don't think we can afford to buy donald trump's prescription drug. we can means test some of the medicare program and enact some of the savings program that are working. st. johns hospital in springfield, took their medicare population and with quality control and customer satisfaction, they were able to reduce $17 million in medicare payment that's were owed. as a result, they got a bonus of $4 million. that's what we need to do in a capitalistic system. spending less money rather than incentivizing more treatment. >> jonathan dine >> like many of the government entitlement programs, medicare, medicaid are all coming to a cusp. they
his plan is to privatize medicare. he wants to give seniors a voucher and once you spend your voucher you're on your own. if the premiums go up, you can't afford it, you're on your own. how do we fix it? there's a couple things we got to do. one we need to do some aggressive means testing. i know political season and i'm not suppose to say we will do anything like that. i believe in it. i don't think we can afford to buy donald trump's prescription drug. we can means test some of the medicare...
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i cannot understand how you can cut medicare $716 billion for current recipients of medicare. you point out, well, we're putting some back, we're going to get a better prescription program. that's $1 for every $15 you've cut. they're smart enough to know that's not a good trait. i want to take that $716 billion you've cut and put it back into medicare. by the way, we can include a prescription program if we need to improve in. but the idea of cutting $716 billion from medicare to be able to balance the additional cost of obamacare is a mistake. and with regards to young people coming along, i've got proposals to make sure that medicare and social security are there for them without any question. >> first of all, i think i.t. is important for governor romney to present his plans to he says will only affect folks in the future. and the essence of the plan is that he would turn medicare into a voucher program. it's called premium support, but it's understood to be about the program. his running mate -- >> and you don't support that? >> i don't, and let me explain why -- >> again,
i cannot understand how you can cut medicare $716 billion for current recipients of medicare. you point out, well, we're putting some back, we're going to get a better prescription program. that's $1 for every $15 you've cut. they're smart enough to know that's not a good trait. i want to take that $716 billion you've cut and put it back into medicare. by the way, we can include a prescription program if we need to improve in. but the idea of cutting $716 billion from medicare to be able to...
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"what do you want from a medicare plan?" i just want a company that helps me get the most out of my healthcare. i want it to be simple. one plan. one card to carry. i want lower copays... and i want my drugs covered. [ male announcer ] say "hello" to more of what you want with unitedhealthcare and our all-in-one medicare advantage plans, including aarp medicarecomplete plans, insured through unitedhealthcare. one, simple plan could give you hospital and doctor coverage with prescription drug benefits and more, like vision and hearing, all with monthly premiums as low as zero-dollars. oh, and i want to spend less on prescriptions. [ male announcer ] say "hello" to value. on average, our medicare advantage members save over eighteen hundred dollars each year on prescriptions alone. call unitedhealthcare now to discuss what you want in a medicare plan. i want the freedom to pick my doctors. [ male announcer ] say "hello" to choice. unitedhealthcare has one of the largest networks, giving you the flexibility to choose, and easil
"what do you want from a medicare plan?" i just want a company that helps me get the most out of my healthcare. i want it to be simple. one plan. one card to carry. i want lower copays... and i want my drugs covered. [ male announcer ] say "hello" to more of what you want with unitedhealthcare and our all-in-one medicare advantage plans, including aarp medicarecomplete plans, insured through unitedhealthcare. one, simple plan could give you hospital and doctor coverage with...
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attend our town hall meetings and look at how we are walking people through how we fix medicare and social security and create jobs and reform the tax code, how we have an energy policy and education policy, a trade policy. mitt romney has put out more specifics on how to revive this economy and get people back to work than the incumbent president of the united states has. i hear the handwringerring in washington and washington wants to talk about process. come out into these states with us and see what we are talking about and the forceful case we are making for economic opportunity. see the specific plans we are putting on the table. the bold solutions. mitt romney has never once asked me to temper anything down. he said go out there and sell this. >> chris: you talk about the handwringerring. there was a report this weekend that you have been talking to conservative commentators and trying to get them to stay on board and not to jump ship and get too discouraged but in the course of the conversations you admitted the campaign has made missteps. question, what missteps? >> first of all,
attend our town hall meetings and look at how we are walking people through how we fix medicare and social security and create jobs and reform the tax code, how we have an energy policy and education policy, a trade policy. mitt romney has put out more specifics on how to revive this economy and get people back to work than the incumbent president of the united states has. i hear the handwringerring in washington and washington wants to talk about process. come out into these states with us and...
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we didn't cut medicare. we didn't have medicare. we didn't cut medicare. we didn't put in place a board that can tell people what treatments they are going receive. we didn't also do something that i think a number of people across the country recognize this which is put people in a position where they lose the insurance they had and wanted. right now the cbo said up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as obamacare goes in to affect next year. like wise the study by mckinsey and company of american businesses said 30% of them are anticipating dropping people from coverage. for those reasons for the tax, medicare, for this board, and for people losing their insurance, this is why the american people don't want medicare and don't want obamacare. it's why republicans said do not do this and the republicans had the plan they put a plan out. they put a bipartisan plan that was swept aside. i think something this big, this important has to be done in a bipartisan basis. we have to have a president that can reach across the aisle and fashion important
we didn't cut medicare. we didn't have medicare. we didn't cut medicare. we didn't put in place a board that can tell people what treatments they are going receive. we didn't also do something that i think a number of people across the country recognize this which is put people in a position where they lose the insurance they had and wanted. right now the cbo said up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as obamacare goes in to affect next year. like wise the study by mckinsey and...
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we didn't cut medicare. of course, we don't have medicare but we didn't cut medicare by $716 billion. we didn't put in place a board that can tell people ultimately what treatments they're going to receive. we didn't also do something that i think a number of people across this country recognize, which is put people in a position where they're going to lose the insurance they had and they wanted. right now the cbo says up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as obama care goes into effect next year. and likewise a study of mckinsey and company of american businesses said 30% of them are at risk of being dropped. for those reasons, for the tax, for medicare, for this board and for people losing their insurance, this is why the american people don't want obama care. it's why republicans said do not do this, and the republicans had the plan. they put a plan out. they put a bipartisan plan. it was swept aside. i think something this big, this important, has to be done on a bipartisan basis. and we have
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plan cuts medicare -- excuse me -- well let's see -- there we go. by $716 billion. cut. >> jennifer: polititfact, the fact checker in looking at that statement rated it mostly false because here is the truth. president obama has made medicare more efficient by cutting costs in the program to the tune of $716 billion. that's cutting costs, not cutting patient care, not kicking people off of medicare, not cutting benefits, just cutting costs by making it more efficient. and then he reinvested those savings back into medicare to extend its life by eight years. and this is the kicker. paul ryan proposed the same thing in his budget but now that he has nothing better to run on, he and romney are attacking the president for the very same cuts that were in paul ryan's budget. these are the same proven myths and falsehoods that romney is going to say on wednesday night. these are the ones that his surrogates will repeat in the days after, and up to that debate. we are going to continue to focus on this, because we want you to be armed. it is up to us to ref
plan cuts medicare -- excuse me -- well let's see -- there we go. by $716 billion. cut. >> jennifer: polititfact, the fact checker in looking at that statement rated it mostly false because here is the truth. president obama has made medicare more efficient by cutting costs in the program to the tune of $716 billion. that's cutting costs, not cutting patient care, not kicking people off of medicare, not cutting benefits, just cutting costs by making it more efficient. and then he...
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>> he would, in effect, turn medicare into a voucher program. the president touched on it but did not stay with it, allowed romney to get away with it. the voucher program would cause people to have to then take a chunk of change, credit from the government, and go out and buy their own insurance. but only a limited amount of money would be available. if the costs go up, the people that get that, would have to pay the difference. the guarantee would be gone. that is the substance of how they would deal with medicare, and that is the way it will be. the president did not make the case as effectively as he should have on that. >> that is factually wrong. let me just say, that is completely, factually wrong. under the romney plan, the amount of money the government will give you will be equal to the amount of the second lowest bid, meaning you can then get that plan for nothing, or a cheaper plan -- there will be one plan cheaper -- and keep the extra money for your pocket. so you will have a choice with no expenditure on your part of at least two
>> he would, in effect, turn medicare into a voucher program. the president touched on it but did not stay with it, allowed romney to get away with it. the voucher program would cause people to have to then take a chunk of change, credit from the government, and go out and buy their own insurance. but only a limited amount of money would be available. if the costs go up, the people that get that, would have to pay the difference. the guarantee would be gone. that is the substance of how...
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i'm not going to keep spending money on things -- >> let's -- >> let's get back to medicare. the president said the government could provide it at a lower cost without a profit. let's -- >> let's not. let's let him respond. let's let him respond to this specific on dodd/frank and what the governor just said. >> massachusetts governor mitt romney rolling over the debate moderator, jim lehrer, of pbs last night during the first presidential debate of this campaign season. joining us now for the interview is dan rather, host of "dan rather reports" on access tv. anchor of cbs' "evening news" for 20 years and a veteran observer of the campaigns. thank you. >> always a pleasure to be here. >> what is your reaction overall to the debate last night? i am assuing you think mitt romney won the debate. what do you think is important about it? >> i think what's important about it is it gives governor romney a chance to get a second look from the electorate. when he was in a bad patch after the 47%. you said, what does he need? not to make any more big mistakes and needs an outstanding f
i'm not going to keep spending money on things -- >> let's -- >> let's get back to medicare. the president said the government could provide it at a lower cost without a profit. let's -- >> let's not. let's let him respond. let's let him respond to this specific on dodd/frank and what the governor just said. >> massachusetts governor mitt romney rolling over the debate moderator, jim lehrer, of pbs last night during the first presidential debate of this campaign season....
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vamos a hablar de medicare entonces. porque es el gran propulsor de nuestro déficit en este momento. mi abuela, algunos saben me ayudó a criarme. mi abuela murió hace tiempo, y mi abuela murió 3 días antes que me eeligieran presidente y ella tenía la educación bachillerato y terminó siendo vice presidente de un banco local y terminó viviendo sola porque así lo quería. y la razón por la cual podía ser independiente, era debido a seguridad social y medicare. había trabajado toda su vida, aportó el dinero y comprendía que había una garantía básica, por debajo de la cual no podía bajar. es la perspectiva que aporto, cuando pienso y hablo sobre lo que se llama prestaciones. el nombre en sí, significa un tipo de dependencia por parte de esta gente. estas son gente que trabaja arduamente con mi abuela y millones de personas allá que cuentan con nosotros. y la manera que enfoco esto, cómo podemos fortalecer el sistema a largo plazo. con respecto al medicare, lo que hicimos fue, nosotros vamos a tener que b
vamos a hablar de medicare entonces. porque es el gran propulsor de nuestro déficit en este momento. mi abuela, algunos saben me ayudó a criarme. mi abuela murió hace tiempo, y mi abuela murió 3 días antes que me eeligieran presidente y ella tenía la educación bachillerato y terminó siendo vice presidente de un banco local y terminó viviendo sola porque así lo quería. y la razón por la cual podía ser independiente, era debido a seguridad social y medicare. había trabajado toda su...
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i want to fix medicare. i want to make sure that the seniors in america and wisconsin are going to have coverage. and i want to make sure we do it in the right way. medicare goes broke in the year 2022. it is $42 trillion in debt right now. there's no way that it's going to be able to continue unless we modify it and change it. i believe that ron white, a democrat and paul ryan, a republican have got the first step. i would go further. i would put medicare, before it goes broke, allow seniors and individuals to be able to continue to be covered by medicare but after that, be able to be put into the federal health program the same way she gets her health insurance right now. it was good -- if it's good enough for the congress why isn't it good enough for the seniors? that's the difference. it's not a voucher pral. you're allowing seniors to have continuation of health care. >> thank you governor. our next question is from john, first to governor thompson. israeliertain you saw prime minister netanyahu holding
i want to fix medicare. i want to make sure that the seniors in america and wisconsin are going to have coverage. and i want to make sure we do it in the right way. medicare goes broke in the year 2022. it is $42 trillion in debt right now. there's no way that it's going to be able to continue unless we modify it and change it. i believe that ron white, a democrat and paul ryan, a republican have got the first step. i would go further. i would put medicare, before it goes broke, allow seniors...
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barack obama was defending his idea of obamacare and medicare and said for instance, that medicare works because the insurance companies have to make a profit on top of their administrative cost, medicare doesn't have to do that and it's lowered administrative costs and therefore a better deal. he said that romney's idea of premium support helping people buy insurance in the private marketplace, all economists agree the premium support will cause medicare to collapse. >> now that's an arguable point and i think that romney is going to engage him on those issues and try to continue to make the case for private sector health insurance. >> what i found interesting about this exchange is remember, obamacare was supposed to be romney's achilles heel throughout the primaries, his rivals said he wouldn't be able to challenge on that, and i think he proved a lot of people wrong. >> he pushed right through that and went on offense. >> and it's an example of his effort to reach across the aisle. >> bipartisanship, that's interesting. >> paul: let's look at an ad, a question how the democrats and o
barack obama was defending his idea of obamacare and medicare and said for instance, that medicare works because the insurance companies have to make a profit on top of their administrative cost, medicare doesn't have to do that and it's lowered administrative costs and therefore a better deal. he said that romney's idea of premium support helping people buy insurance in the private marketplace, all economists agree the premium support will cause medicare to collapse. >> now that's an...
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not be able to hit hit medicare. they would not get nearly the and it is they have now. i do not know anybody who has an extra $6,400 a year for health care when they are seniors. [cheers and applause] >> can you imagine president barack obama putting forth a plan that says it will cost another $60,000? ladies and gentlemen, they also sat there at the convention. it is amazing how they talked about the urgency to get the national debt under control. remember that big clock in the back? they said, we realize the president was handed a difficult situation. we realize that. but, you know, he hasn't done much with it. and here's what he hasn't done. and we are ready to act urgently on the national debt. ladies and gentlemen, let's not look just at what they say, let's look at what they do. a couple things they don't tell you is,the last time they were in charge, congressman ryan voted 4 and governor romney said he agreed with all of the things that were done last time around. last time around is what caused this national
not be able to hit hit medicare. they would not get nearly the and it is they have now. i do not know anybody who has an extra $6,400 a year for health care when they are seniors. [cheers and applause] >> can you imagine president barack obama putting forth a plan that says it will cost another $60,000? ladies and gentlemen, they also sat there at the convention. it is amazing how they talked about the urgency to get the national debt under control. remember that big clock in the back?...
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so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral. see why millions of people have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp. don't wait. call now. >>> mitt romney's running mate acknowledged what he described as campaign missteps. we talked about the campaign race's final two debates. i asked anna if paul ryan's remarks are part of the deliberate strategy. >> i don't know
so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your...
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and appearing to double down on wanting to voucherize medicare. i recognize the president's performance. in college i felt like i didn't need to study for an everybody lish exam because i already new english. >> greta: seemed like the president early on quit z i have never seen this. like this went out of him, the oxygen. i was really surprised and he's particularly dynamic on his feet. he looked like he quit. >> he can be dynamic. we've seen him give strong speeches. a agree waits interesting that the president seemed to almost take issue with the fact that he was being challenged so directly by governor romney and these are challenges he's not used to hearing. he's not hearing from zpaf doesn't hear them from the white house press corps. governor romney taking every shot and answering it, and then, turning quickly and i think president obama didn't expect that level of challenge. >> greta: byron, what was it like in the spin room sf president's people representing him? >> this is actually fascinated. seconds after it ended the room was flooded w
and appearing to double down on wanting to voucherize medicare. i recognize the president's performance. in college i felt like i didn't need to study for an everybody lish exam because i already new english. >> greta: seemed like the president early on quit z i have never seen this. like this went out of him, the oxygen. i was really surprised and he's particularly dynamic on his feet. he looked like he quit. >> he can be dynamic. we've seen him give strong speeches. a agree waits...
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i'd put those dollars back into medicare. >> mr. ryan has proposed something similar, almost precisely the same number, 716. >> he was going to use that money to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself against paul ryan's budget and he put the guy on the ticket. >> chris, i remember when this happened. when he put ryan on the ticket, a lot of democrats said, okay, it's over, we've got it. and i was skeptical about that when they said it, and i think a lot of us who like to hear intellectual debates about policy said, great, bring it on, let's have a big debate about the philosophy of government. down in florida they don't care about the philosophy. >> all politics is local. >> they want the program, they like the program, don't mess with the program. >> thank you, howard. thank you very much for joining us. coming up, claire mccaskill versus todd aiken. it became a good bet for democrats. let's see how it
i'd put those dollars back into medicare. >> mr. ryan has proposed something similar, almost precisely the same number, 716. >> he was going to use that money to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself against paul ryan's budget and he put the guy on the ticket. >> chris, i remember when this happened. when he put ryan on the ticket, a lot of...
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you'll recall they went very hard on medicare. they decided to run to their weakness, and they started to basically just lying or at least being incredibly dishonest saying that obama is going to do this and had cut 700 billion in change when, in fact ryan had cut the same amount in his budget proposal. you saw a little tightening when ryan was picked for the ticket, but the numbers have gone overwhelmingly in the other direction. seniors are now very much supporting obama in these swing states, and if you look at that medicare question its devastating for romney and ryan. >> cenk: last word on this, and if noam is right and i've seen the polls, and he is right going further right didn't work. you can't really criticize president from the left, i don't think you can if you're republican. what do they have left? >> they don't have states to run to, and i think they've played that chess game. i think he's inextricably tied to ryan, and i hate to see t but they'll have to double down and have the of a presidential presence. that's wh
you'll recall they went very hard on medicare. they decided to run to their weakness, and they started to basically just lying or at least being incredibly dishonest saying that obama is going to do this and had cut 700 billion in change when, in fact ryan had cut the same amount in his budget proposal. you saw a little tightening when ryan was picked for the ticket, but the numbers have gone overwhelmingly in the other direction. seniors are now very much supporting obama in these swing...
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it's a machine to save medicare. where is the president's plan to save medicare? >> the president would say his plan would not to go with the romney/ryan/rubio approach. >> that's fine. what is his approach? where is his plan to save medicare? it's going to go bankrupt, not just for my generation, but for my mom. what he is doing about it, other than taking $700 billion out of it. >> all right. we just lost that connection. but we'll try to reconnect with jim acosta and senator marco rubio and also about to see the highs and lows. ratings for the candidates from our focus group of undecided voters, we'll hear from them as well. also, you can see the debate again in its entirety, in just a little bit. stay with us. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. the wheels of progress. seems they haven't been moving much lately. but things are starting to turn around because of business people like you. and regions is here to help. with the experience and service to keep things rolling. fro
it's a machine to save medicare. where is the president's plan to save medicare? >> the president would say his plan would not to go with the romney/ryan/rubio approach. >> that's fine. what is his approach? where is his plan to save medicare? it's going to go bankrupt, not just for my generation, but for my mom. what he is doing about it, other than taking $700 billion out of it. >> all right. we just lost that connection. but we'll try to reconnect with jim acosta and...